DAVOS, Switzerland -- Before the three almost-oligarchs
walked in out of a snowy night, Georgian President-elect Mikheil Saakashvili
was addressing a small dinner at the World Economic Forum of about two
dozen people, including some involved in a pipeline being built across
Georgian territory and other potential investors.
His voice growing hoarse, he continued making the case that he had been
making all day Wednesday -- at a press conference, in a panel discussion
before hundreds of the political and business elite attending the annual
forum, and in many private conversations and interviews -- that Georgia
is rooting out corruption and wants to become a good place to do business
and a democratic role model for the entire Caucasus and Central Asian
region.
Earlier in the day, he announced that George Soros and the United Nations
Development Program were creating a fund to provide money to pay government
salaries and remove the temptation from police and government bureaucrats
to take bribes and steal state funds. (Click here to read story)
"It is one thing to prosecute these people [who have been engaged
in corruption] and another to change the system," he said.
Saakashvili then moved on to his second major message -- that repairing
ties with Russia is essential but that it will not be easy after so many
years of hostility between Moscow and Tbilisi during the rule of Eduard
Shevardnadze.
During the dinner, Saakashvili and Grigory
Yavlinsky, the Yabloko leader, who was sitting across the table, traded
thoughts on what had gone wrong between their two countries and what needed
to be done. They talked about how Shevardnadze had provoked Russia to
create an external enemy and how this had helped him hold on to power
at home.
Later, when asked to speak again to the whole group, Saakashvili borrowed
a sound bite first spoken by his Russian dinner partner: "He [Shevardnadze]
needed Russia as an enemy, I need Russia as a friend."
It was a phrase he would repeat Thursday morning to waiting journalists
after having breakfast with presidential economic adviser Andrei Illarionov.
From his arrival in Davos on Tuesday, Saakashvili, perhaps a little
giddy from the company he is keeping at the age of 36, has delighted in
listing the meetings he has had with various presidents, including Iranian
President Mohammad Khatami. He also said he has met with British Foreign
Secretary Jack Straw and U.S. Commerce Secretary Donald Evans. But at
an opening reception, he said his most important meetings would be with
Russian businessmen.
"If there are serious economic relations, if Russian capital seriously
enters Georgia, then this allows us to move from being guided by emotions
and impulses to real actions. This is because, where there is serious
capital, there is less place for adventurism and aggression."
Saakashvili met with LUKoil CEO Vagit Alekperov: The discussions were
"very preliminary," but "he wants to begin working in Georgian
territory." He also met with Anatoly Chubais, head of Unified Energy
Systems, which recently bought the energy distribution company in Georgia
from its U.S. owner, and Saakashvili said he believes the electricity
supply now will be better.
At Wednesday night's dinner, just before the main course was served,
Andrei Bugrov, managing director of Interros holding company, David Yakobashvili,
chairman of the board of Wimm-Bill-Dann, and Vladimir Yevtushenkov, chairman
of the board of Sistema, walked into the hotel restaurant and sat down
at an empty table.
"Mr. Saakashvili is our big hope," Bugrov said in an interview
afterward. He said the new Georgian president has the potential to ensure
stability, which is good for business. "We would like to support
him as much as possible."
As for what interests Interros in Georgia, he said the country has mineral
deposits, manufacturing that could be updated and a good climate for agriculture.
"If not a bread basket, it could be a fruit basket," he said,
a view that may be shared by Yakobashvili, whose company makes fruit juices.
Also, like many Russians, Bugrov said he has a "serious affection"
toward Georgia, where he spent his honeymoon, and would like to see it
once again become a tourist destination.
Saakashvili, who joined the three leading businessmen at their table
for a while, said they had a good conversation. "They are interested,
but we'll see how it works."
George Arveladze, Saakashvili's press secretary, said Russian businessmen
are "ahead of their own government." They see that business
is the only way to improve relations and want to "exploit the region
for its natural potential," he said.
Saakashvili also has gotten some support at Davos from Russians outside
the business world.
"As a Russian nationalist, I am very happy that Mikheil Saakashvili
has been elected, and that Shevardnadze is gone, which shows that Russia
was right," said Sergei Karaganov, who heads the Council on Foreign
and Defense Policy, speaking Wednesday at a panel discussion on geopolitics
that was introduced by Saakashvili.
"Russia should stop its policy of negligence, or even negative
negligence, and be helpful," Karaganov said.
Asked afterward how specifically Russia could help, his first suggestion
was to "open the railroad, even if Georgia doesn't want it open."
The railroad runs from Russia to Abkhazia, the separatist Georgian region
on the Black Sea, but stops at the Abkhaz-Georgian border, Arveladze said.
Most freight between Russia and Georgia must now be moved by truck along
the Old Georgian Military Highway, which is a rugged narrow road often
closed by snow or avalanches.
Saakashvili has wanted his first foreign trip after his inauguration
Sunday to be to Moscow, and he said Thursday that he expects a visit to
be arranged for early February. President Vladimir Putin, who waited for
11 days after the Jan. 4 election to congratulate him, has invited him
to Moscow, but no date has been set.
The primary issue for Putin, and the main thing Saakashvili should address
if he hopes to get off on the right foot, is Chechnya, several prominent
political figures at Davos said. Russia accuses Georgia of harboring Chechen
fighters and their foreign supporters, and in the past has demanded the
right to send in Russian troops to go after them but has been turned down.
Saakashvili said in an interview Tuesday that he is ready to work with
Russia on this. "We are telling high-placed people on the Russian
side: Let's begin joint patrols. Why don't you train our border guards?
Why don't we exchange information on a continual basis? We will completely
coordinate the actions of the prosecutors so that no one suspected of
crime appears either on our territory or on Russian territory."
Mikhail Margelov, chairman of the foreign affairs committee in the Federation
Council, said in an interview that Saakashvili needs to tell Putin that
"Georgia does not want to become the base of a threat to Russia."
Another important issue for both Saakashvili and Putin is the future
of the two remaining Russian military bases in Georgia.
Margelov said it is largely a "technical issue" that can be
worked out by both sides. He said there needs to be a bilateral agreement
on how and when the troops will be withdrawn and where they will go.
Karaganov, however, called them "beacons of stability" and
said Russia could help Georgia by keeping them there.
Other Russians here have expressed the opinion that since all but several
hundred of the 3,000 troops on the bases are Georgians, Saakashvili should
allow Russia to keep paying his citizens and not worry too much about
bases that pose little real military threat.
Margelov said Saakashvili, "who is neither pro-American nor pro-Russian
but pro-Georgian," is the kind of leader Putin needs in Georgia.
"After the inauguration and after Putin's re-election, I think the
two presidents can do a lot together."
Illarionov said that Russia wants good relations with Georgia and wants
to see it become "a stable, prosperous and secure place."
Strobe Talbott, president of the Brookings Institution and a U.S. deputy
secretary of state in the Clinton administration, was more skeptical.
He said there is a lot of ambivalence in Russia about Georgia.
"I believe we will see [U.S. President George] Bush, especially
in exchanges with Putin, put the stress on supporting Georgian sovereignty
and independence. We want to make sure Russia is part of the solution
and not part of the problem in the South Caucasus," Talbott said
in an interview.
Talbott's former boss, former President Bill Clinton, also put in a
plug for Saakashvili in Davos. At the opening lunch Wednesday, Clinton
called for global support for politicians who are willing to take great
risks to promote democracy, such as Saakashvili.
"Are you just going to pat him on the back?" Clinton said.
"Or can we give him help in some systematic way so that all those
other countries of the former Soviet Union want to get in line?"
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