Putin will strengthen the
criminal nomenclatura system
Interview of Grigory Yavlinsky by Francois
Bonnet, "Le Monde", April 3, 2000
Francois Bonnet: Do you share the opinion of
the communists that numerous falsifications occurred during
the presidential elections on March 26, where Vladimir Putin
already won in the first round?
Grigory
Yavlinsky: Probably, we have also noted many strange incidents.
Our real result differs greatly from the official figures,
as everyone agrees. Voting was unfortunately rigged, as was
the case in 1993 and 1996. Unfortunately, this discussion
about falsifications is absolutely futile: at present there
is no mechanism in society to investigate and verify such
events, and the international community immediately recognised
the legality of these elections. The official data represent
part of the large-scale manipulations. Who prepares the political
information for the first television channel - ORT - which
invented the electoral results? Was it not the Kremlin?
Francois Bonnet: You have always preferred
to be in opposition. You have refused all posts in the government.
Surely this is the payment for your action?
Grigory Yavlinsky: In Russia we still have only
corrupt and criminal governments. I refused to work there,
as this would mean working with the mafia, supporting its
methods and constantly trading with your conscience. This
was the main factor behind the August 1998 crisis and default,
which was finally announced by Sergei Kiriyenko. It should
be made clear, that this crisis facilitated the harbouring
of money by Russian oligarchs. The old nomenclatura reigned
the country for almost ten years and concluded a union with
the "young reformers" with the aim of getting of $50 bln from
the West, a stolen $50 bln. Consequently I see no need to
work with such governments, which, on the top of all this,
have been engaging in a war in Chechnya.
Francois Bonnet: Do you think, that Vladimir
Putin is a man of this nomenclature?
Grigory Yavlinsky: I think that Vladimir Putin
will strengthen the Yeltsin system, that is the system of
the criminal nomenclatura. The Soviet regime is not only a
system of centralised planning, it also imposes restrictions,
or, in other words, constitutes an absence of human rights,
implementation of the principle "the goal justifies the means".
This involves the sacrifice of tens of thousands to attain
political goals, representative of a desire to solve all problems
from a position of force, with creeping militarisation of
society - that is where we are today.
Francois Bonnet: In your opinion, who is closest
to the new President? The financier Boris Berezovsky, Anatoli
Chubais or the individuals referred to as "Yeltsin's entourage"
or the leadership of the Federal Security Service?
Grigory Yavlinsky: All these people exist and
they have created the President. Who leads here? I am not
a psychoanalyst, and I don't see any difference between them.
Then why should he get rid of them? In my opinion, if someone
is in prison, he tries to get out and fight for his freedom.
But we face a different situation with Putin. There is no
single sign that he wants to get rid of his backers.
Francois Bonnet: How do you assess the reaction
of Western countries to the election of Putin?
Grigory Yavlinsky: The West will have to deal
with Vladimir Putin, as he represents Russia now. But, in
my opinion, today the West is looking for any pretext to act
as his advocate, present him as a deserving man and explain
that the oligarchy of this country prevents him from conducting
the reforms, etc. I think that one should not seek justification
here. We should call a spade a spade: for the past ten years
we have seen only semi-reforms, and the population of the
country voted for the representative of the secret services
chosen by Boris Yeltsin. Putin was elected in a country that
has been suffering an unprecedented humiliation. Our political
elite thinks that Russia has been humiliated by the West;
whereas it has been humiliated by the party nomenclatura.
Francois Bonnet: Do you think that Mikhail
Kasyanov, who will probably become Prime Minister of Vladimir
Putin, and his economic advisers German Gref and Alexei Kudrin,
are representatives of this nomenclatura?
Grigory Yavlinsky: No, they are not its direct
heirs, but they represent the interests of the so-called reformers,
who concluded a union with it.
Francois Bonnet: Does your electoral result
complicate the creation of an opposition-minded coalition
of democratic and reformist forces?
Grigory Yavlinsky: This will be very difficult
work. We try to work in the Duma with liberals from the SPS
(the group uniting Sergei Kiriyenko, Boris Nemtsov and Yegor
Gaidar), but I think that these small liberal parties cannot
really exist, and their leaders support the war as they see
here a way of restoring the army’s former pride. They can
hardly be called liberal and democrats.
Francois Bonnet: What will you do if Putin
offers you or some representatives of your party posts in
the Government?
Grigory Yavlinsky: Why? To continue the war in
Chechnya, introduce military lessons in kindergartens, prepare
political information for the ORT and organise a deal to enable
Boris Berezovsky to buy 60% of Russia's aluminium market?
Today I see that the government is only engaged in such actions.
Although he didn't win,
he held his ground. On the results of Grigory Yavlinsky presidential
campaign
By Sergei Mitrokhin, Deputy of the State
Duma, the Yabloko faction
Everyone I have talked to about elections noted
that this was Yabloko's best electoral campaign since its
formation. Such a campaign could not fail to generate a significant
increase votes.
Where has this increase gone? Answering this question,
it would be appropriate to cite a well-known expert on the
elections, D.Oreshkin: "Between 13 to 15 million bulletins
are dropped into the ballot box directly by governors and
presidents." The divergence of the voting results for Yavlinsky
at the elections on March 26 raises many questions.
The most difficult to explain is a two-fold increase
in the number of votes for Yavlinsky in Moscow, compared to
the Duma elections. This was observed in a situation where
most of the regions demonstrated a contraction in or constant
level of Yavlinsky's electorate.
This phenomenon could be attributed to the greater
impact on the electorate in Moscow by the central mass media,
which was a key factor for Yavlinsky's electoral head-quarters.
However, this assumption disproves the situation
in Moscow region, where the central mass media are also represented
in full, but Yavlinsky's increased by only 2%. I think that
is little sense in investigating which particular words or
actions of Grigory Yavlinsky managed to transform the moods
of Moscovites to back him. I think that the explanation of
“exclusive” voting in Moscow lies in the aforementioned words
of D.Oreshkin.
It is unlikely that the governors, or other officials
in the regions who provided administrative “support” at the
ballot boxes acted on the direct instructions of the Kremlin
(although this version cannot be ruled out entirely).
Most likely the decisive factor here was their
desire to serve the Kremlin well, by providing a high level
of electoral backing for Putin. The parliamentary elections
had already demonstrated that this individual is iprone to
fall victim to governor toadyism, attacked by the Kremlin
mass media. In December 1999 the “Fatherland-All Russia” bloc
was such a target, in March 2000, it was Grigory Yavlinsky.
(By the way, the communists have never been targets of media
attacks).
The absence of significant falsifications in Moscow
may be attributed to the solidarity of Yuri Luzhkov, who displayed
courage and did not express such equivocal loyalty to the
Kremlin. Grigory Yavlinsky is the only Russian politician
to have challenged the Kremlin, instead of joining in the
laudatory choir of Vladimir Putin’s sycophants and concluding
some back-stage deals with him.
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